| AT-43 inHouse - Updated |
| Balrog | Date: Wednesday, 16-Nov-2011, 0:59 AM | Message # 1 |
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Hi Guys ... I've done the updates to the AT-43 inHouse Rules, with a page showing the final points for discussion ...
>>> AT-43 inHouse: 15th Nov, 2011
PLEASE contact me, or leave a post below, if I've got ANYTHING wrong ... Walts
Extract: Voting System Suggestion:Situations where players at the meeting want to introduce a new issue to
the table have to realise that if players are missing from the face-2-face and as proxy voting relies on
prior knowledge of the meetings agenda, that no voting can be carried out during that session. This
allows all players time to prepare and proxy voting to come into play for players not at that table
meeting or the next AT-43 sit-down? … Any suggestions or feedback?
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Message edited by Balrog - Wednesday, 16-Nov-2011, 1:24 AM
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:06 AM | Message # 2 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Voting System Suggestion:
Situations where players at the meeting want to introduce a new issue to the table have to realise that if players are missing from the face-2-face and as proxy voting relies on prior knowledge of the meetings agenda, that no voting can be carried out during that session. This allows all players time to prepare and proxy voting to come into play for players not at that table meeting or the next AT-43 sit-down.
My Thoughts: I'm happy with that! ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:14 AM | Message # 3 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Firing Suggestion:
- More play-testing required for weapons LoS?
- Field of view to be respected for AFV?
- Firer under cover and the effects on it’s weapons LoS, i.e. left & right-handed weapons now have a LoS of their own?
My Thoughts: I'd rather keep the rule of center LoS allowing ALL weapons to fire, regardless of where weapons are on the model ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:24 AM | Message # 4 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Civil Engineers? - Currently classified as immortals!
My Thoughts: Return them to mortal status. One per army, but allow one per platoon if captured.
How I see the Civvy's now ...
• Civvy's are mortal ... when their dead, their dead;
• One Civvy allocated to each company;
• • If captured, can be fielded as one Civvy per platoon;
And from the FB Rulebook - Page 10
• 50 RP's per Civvy;
• Civil engineers don’t take part in the fighting. Nevertheless, they follow their unit around and count towards the control of objectives;
• Civil engineers benefit from the same movement capacity and abilities as their unit;
• A civil engineer who suffers an impact is immediately eliminated.
- No damage test is required. Nonetheless he can be saved using abilities that allow this (“Medic!”, and so on).
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:30 AM | Message # 5 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Model Movement? Correct measuring of movement!
My Thoughts: Models need to use the base size as a guide to ALL movement they make. In some cases, move the model each time a turn or corner is encountered to get the correct distance. Here's an example image, showing that the width of the base must be respected! ...
The blue line is much shorter than the true yellow path that the model should take.
Also, distances should be based on the furthest point of the model when traveling, ie an ONi transport has no base, but the outside of the model should be used as a guide as it's furthest point it can travel, regardless of which way it ends up facing ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:34 AM | Message # 6 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Therian Storm Arachns new "Group Sacrifice" ability?
Link to PDF: Storm Arachns
My Thoughts: Way to powerful for so few AP's! Not in the current Frostbite rules. Who's to say that Rackham playtested these rules and found them to be too powerful, so removed them from the Frostbite Rules? ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:41 AM | Message # 7 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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AFV Jumping A Crevasse?
My Thoughts: No ... Striders or AFV's are too big to "jump" anything, unless they have the "Rocket Jump" ability of course! ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 9:43 AM | Message # 8 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Fighters must have a Line of Sight to an objective in order to capture/contest it?
My Thoughts: Agree 100%! ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 10:04 AM | Message # 9 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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UNA - Captain Newton - Stacking of Newton’s “Repair Bonus” within the M.Ind faction?
My Thoughts: Can't be done. When the UNA fields the M.Ind faction, the bog standard drivers of the AFV are replaced by drivers who have been trained to repair AFV. Captain Newton already has this skill, so doesn't need training, ergo she has the standard repair bonus of one SP per round ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 10:06 AM | Message # 10 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Base size of Transport Ships? ... 8cm or 13cm?
My Thoughts: For me, it should be 8cm for an AFV which can carry 8 or less troopers, 13cm for bigger troop carriers.
Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 10:08 AM | Message # 11 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Damocles Commissar?
My Thoughts: We should allow these type of morale troopers to join the game!
Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 10:11 AM | Message # 12 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Karman “bikes” & Tarmac Spaceport “stairs”?
My Thoughts: No AFV can use the stairs. It clearly states in the rules (FB Rules - P118) that "Infantry Fighters" can use the stairs, so, IMHO, no other fighter type can, i.e. Striders or AFV's ... Walts
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| Balrog | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 10:13 AM | Message # 13 |
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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FB Campaign: Troop Re-Organisation?
My Thoughts: Keep as is. Heroes can move about armys every week wherever they are. Companies in sectors must retain that company composition that it had when entering the sector. Units can be adjusted within their guidelines ... Walts
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| zellak | Date: Sunday, 04-Dec-2011, 7:13 PM | Message # 14 |
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You have missed one.
The alleged giant flamer template of the King Mammoth.
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Quote Balrog :Common sense is the worst thing you can apply to any game!
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| Balrog | Date: Monday, 05-Dec-2011, 1:06 AM | Message # 15 |
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Aun Va III
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Hi Guys ... To move things along with the AT-43 inHouse Rules, I've pencilled in my thoughts below on the various outstanding items for discussion. Hopefully, other players would have read the updated inHouse Rules and we can have another quick Face-2-Face one Sunday so we can get back to playing!
Cry "Havoc!," and let slip the dogs of war!
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Karman - King Mammoth - "Curtain of Flame" Equipment
From the Karman Armybook (Page 55)
Curtain of flames: At the end of its movement, if it has not yet shot its light flamers, the King Mammoth can use the “Curtain of flames”
ability. (Enemy) Units located in the shooting arc of its flamers cannot see the King Mammoth, nor the units hidden even partially by the vehicle.
My Thoughts: Having had a few crazy idea's thrashed about that I suggested ...  ... I went back to the orignal rule description and kept things simple. Both the KM and any Karman units partially (i.e. any one fighter of the unit!) behind the KM benefit from blocked Line of Sight, so can't be fired on ... the "Curtain of Flames" falls before the enemy's eyes! - full stop!
All Karman fighters have to be seen for that Karman unit to be fired on. Here's a pretty picture to show u what I mean ...
... ONi fighter ONE cannot shoot at ANY Karman fighters as the Karman Unit is partially hidden by the CoF. ONi fighter TWO can shoot as he can see the whole Karman unit! Simple, and easy peasy! No making things up that don't exist in the original rule! Any questions? Search the forums!!! Walts
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