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BalrogDate: Saturday, 19-May-2012, 4:56 PM | Message # 21
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Soz Z ... Based on the launch of AA's new collections, I don't know if I'll even get a chance to get my hols in the middle of June, which is when I planned to get on with the Tau again. My boss has asked (guilt tripped!) me to suspend my hols till all the development/web/brochure work is done, so it's going to be another long sleep! But, never fear, I do get there in the end! Just need to see the little white spec at the end of the tunnel to believe it myself sad ... I need a lotto win!!! yahoo ... Walts
 
BalrogDate: Saturday, 19-May-2012, 6:57 PM | Message # 22
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Hi Guys ... I have been busy painting up the last of my Tau warriors. Say hello to the "D'Yanoi Twins" ...



... Two warriors from the moons of D'Yanoi ... "... both with sharp piercing red & blue eyes! Freaks, caught in the moons maelstroms when they where barely able to walk, now with a strange telepathic link ... pale as ghosts, hellbent on destruction!" ... Walts
 
zellakDate: Saturday, 26-May-2012, 3:23 PM | Message # 23
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Four weeks.....still waiting. closedeyes

Not even as much as the stats for Fire Warriors (the suspected type 1 Infantry) dry

Whats the point in starting a thread, claiming to have started playtesting....and to have no stats to show !

D'Yanoi. ???

Dae Ye annoy ........aye ye annoy me. tongue

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
MorgothDate: Sunday, 27-May-2012, 5:54 AM | Message # 24
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Dae Ye annoy ........aye ye annoy me.

Nice to see a bit of humour back in the forums happy ... even at my own expense!

Still looking for that white speck at the end of the tunnel, and it's not getting any clearer as the gamesrooms now full of all my crap sad ... Walts


PS: This post has been made with my new "pseudo-member" to clarify when posting as the Administrator or just my personal rants.

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him ..."
 
zellakDate: Sunday, 27-May-2012, 10:18 AM | Message # 25
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Not keen on the new avatar Walter. Surprised its not an Ethereal. wink

Why dont you have a Reputation like everyone else ?

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Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
MorgothDate: Monday, 28-May-2012, 6:07 AM | Message # 26
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Not keen on the new avatar Walter. Surprised its not an Ethereal.

Why dont you have a Reputation like everyone else ?

Mmmmmm, an Ethereal? Maybe for Balrog ...

As for the Reps, don't fancy playing that game! fie ... so had it disabled ... Walts

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zellakDate: Saturday, 09-Jun-2012, 1:28 PM | Message # 27
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Five weeks....still waiting.

Not as much as even the fire warrior stats. sad

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As for the Reps, don't fancy playing that game! ... so had it disabled ... Walts


worried ? dry

Added (09-Jun-2012, 1:28 PM)
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Saturday again......now six weeks........

Still no fire warrior stats.

Still nothing from the thread starter (he is to busy painting. sad )
Message edited by zellak - Saturday, 09-Jun-2012, 1:29 PM

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
MorgothDate: Saturday, 09-Jun-2012, 6:57 PM | Message # 28
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Guilty as charged m'lord! sad

No room for play-testing, so Tau Dominion's on the back burner till August, if I'm lucky. Life always seems to get in the way!

Painting models is a nice break from painting the walls in the house! .... Luv it! biggrin ... Walts ("I'll eventually get there in the end'ish!")

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zellakDate: Saturday, 09-Jun-2012, 7:07 PM | Message # 29
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You could post some stats ....like fire warriors and hammerheads....so that others could playtest even if you dont have time.

How can people playtest your ideas without stats ?

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
MorgothDate: Saturday, 09-Jun-2012, 7:17 PM | Message # 30
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Soz z .... don't like doing things by half, so when I get a chance to complete the lot based on my models that I have, you'll be first to see them, promise! ... Walts

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zellakDate: Friday, 14-Sep-2012, 8:35 PM | Message # 31
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August !!!

This thread is dead.

Added (12-Sep-2012, 10:54 AM)
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A bit of thread Necromancy.......its now September !!! dry .......still no sign of the Tau list.

Might hi-jack this thread myself and do my own list.

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So what do we know about the Tau from the codex ?

They are nocturnal herbivores. So good at seeing in the dark.

They prefer ranged combat to close combat.

They are divided into five castes.

Ethereal : Leaders / Air : Pilots / Earth ; worker / Water ; diplomats , merchants, administrators / Fire ; warriors.

Art of war. the Mont'ka , well planned surgical strikes....called off if the enemy evades or is resilient

Kauyon ; patient hunter, lure and ambush tactics.


"The fire caste are entirely committed to mobile warfare in which targets are identified, tracked and killed in an efficient and cautious manner."

"The Tau regard close combat as primitive and always plan their attacks around the application of firepower."

"A Tau army will gladly retreat from a strong enemy attack to preserve Tau lives, while it awaits its opportunity to strike back effectively."

"...the Tau empire cannot draw on limitless manpower, so the strategy of attrition is unknown to them."


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So how to organise it ?

A vanilla list to start with, giving access to all units. And then two factions for the Kauyon and Mont'ka ?

How to classify the troops ?

Type 1 infantry (rank and file) Fire Warriors / Gun Drones / Kroot.

Type 2 infantry ( Elites) Pathfinders / Stealth Suits

Type 3 infantry (3 man heavy infantry) Crisis Battlesuits / Broadside Battlesuits

Type 1 AFV : Pirhana

Type 2 AFV : Devilfish APC / Hammerhead Gunship / Skyray Air defence gunship

Type 3 AFV : ?????
Message edited by zellak - Friday, 14-Sep-2012, 9:01 PM

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Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
ZealyotDate: Saturday, 15-Sep-2012, 0:40 AM | Message # 32
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I'd be tempted to call the hammerhead a type 3 because ots the only main battle tank happy

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no evil shall escape my sight,
let those who worship evil's might,
beware my power,
Green Lantern's light!"
 
zellakDate: Saturday, 15-Sep-2012, 7:20 PM | Message # 33
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I'd be tempted to call the hammerhead a type 3 because its the only main battle tank


Because of its size, i can see your point....but Walts has scratchbuilt something for a heavy walker.

And it might be a bit limiting to have an MBT on a 130mm base ????? (preaching to the converted here ??? tongue )


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Tau army list. (vanilla)

Soldier* / Soldier **

Soldier* / Soldier**

Infantry* / Soldier *** / AFV** ( Devilfish APC Only)

AFV* / AFV**

AFV * / AFV ** / AFV***

Note, the third slot allows for an APC to be taken so that its possible to field an entirely mobile infantry formation.


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Rank 0 Shas' la
Rank 1 Shas 'ui
Rank 2 Shas' vre
Rank 3 Shas' el
Rank 4 Shas' o
Rank 5 Ethereal.


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Fire Warrior.

move 14cm
morale 4
armour 4
melee defence 1

Pulse rifle / Accuracy 5 / ROF 1/0 ... PenDam 7/1

Pulse Carbine / Accuracy 3 / ROF 1/1.....PenDam 7/1

Standard squad (6 fire warriors) 175 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 to 2 specialist, 0 to 1 officer (Shas' ui) extra fighter +30 AP

Maximum squad ( 12 fire warriors) 350 AP......0 special weapons, 0 to 2 specialist, 0 to 1 officer (Shas' ui)

Specialists : Medic, Combat Engineer, ECW specialist.

Optional Equipment : grenades at +5 AP per model (in the entire unit.)



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Designer notes. same AP as steel troopers.

-1 morale / -1 armour / -3 melee defence / +2 Pen on weapon / no special weapons.

The fire warrior leader would come with a "markerlight". +25 AP
In effect firing a missile, same stats as steel trooper missile launcher.

Note. there is no combat knife listed, in order to prevent Tau engaging in close combat.

Also no Mechanic specialist.
Message edited by zellak - Monday, 17-Sep-2012, 9:41 PM

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
pavlovDate: Sunday, 16-Sep-2012, 8:11 PM | Message # 34
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Hi

Several suggestions for type 3's.

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news....n-store

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/aw-grav-tank.html

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/bucephalus-grav-tank.html

alan

There is f&*k all cool about 10+ civil engineers running around every battlefield
 
zellakDate: Thursday, 25-Oct-2012, 9:27 AM | Message # 35
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Kroot

Move 14
Morale 6
Armour 3
Melee Defence 5

Kroot Rifle / Accuracy 0 / ROF 1/0....PenDam 4/1

Melee (Kroot rifle) Acc 4 / Attacks 2/0......... PenDam 4/1

Standard squad ( Kroot 10 ) 150 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 to 1 specialist, 0-1 officer (+10 AP).

Maximum squad ( Kroot 20 ) 300 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 to 3 specialist, 0-1 officer (+10 AP).

Support group ( Kroot 3 ) 50 AP ........ 3 specialist (Scout)

Specialist : Scout. ("stealth" ability)

Optional Equipment : none.


Designer notes

based on the RPG Soldaty

+1 Melee defence, -1 shooting attack, +1 melee attack, +1 melee Pen, no special weapons, +2 Kroot warriors.


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Gun Drones

Move 18cm
Morale N/A
Armour 5
CCD 1

Twin Pulse carbine / Accuracy 3 / ROF 2/0....PenDam 7/1

G-packs

Standard squad ( 4 ) 200 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 specialist, 0 officer

Maximum squad ( 8 ) 400 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 specialist, 0 officer

Optional Equipment : none.


Designer notes;

based on UNA wing troopers

Bonus : No morale checks / Pulse carbine +1 Accuracy and +2 Penetration.

Penalty : -3 CCD / No CC attacks / No special weapons / -2 miniatures.


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Stealthsuit

Move 18
Morale 6
Armour 8
CCD 2

Burst cannon / Accuracy 3 / ROF 3/0....PenDam 7/1

Standard squad ( 6 stealthsuit ) 450 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 to 1 specialist, 1 officer Shas'ui.

Equipment : Stealth ability and G pack.

Optional Equipment : none.


Designer notes;

Based on Cogs Gunmen

Bonus : Stealth / +3 miniatures. (doubling the numbers)

Penalty : Loss of detection ability / -5 Morale / -3 Armour / -3 CCD / -4 Acc / ROF -1/1 ! / +150 AP

I am pretty sure this will need a lot of testing, and may have got this one very wrong !

Message edited by zellak - Thursday, 25-Oct-2012, 9:54 AM

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
CheDate: Thursday, 25-Oct-2012, 12:41 PM | Message # 36
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Message posted as requested. wink

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MorgothDate: Monday, 29-Oct-2012, 2:55 PM | Message # 37
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Message posted as requested.

Hey Che ... did u miss something out? wacko ... Walts

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zellakDate: Tuesday, 30-Oct-2012, 5:50 PM | Message # 38
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Whenever i post new stuff it gets added to the previous post.
i wanted to start a new post so could only do that if someone replied. Che did me a favour. So now i have room to work. happy

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
MorgothDate: Tuesday, 30-Oct-2012, 6:54 PM | Message # 39
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I wonder if this is something that the Admin-Man can check & fix wink

I've noticed the same a few odd times and it does look odd, and I wonder if thread posters get notifications about your "Added" posts as well?

Might be a nice little job to solve? ... Walts

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zellakDate: Thursday, 08-Nov-2012, 10:53 AM | Message # 40
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Pathfinder

move 14cm
morale 4
armour 4
melee defence 1

Pulse Carbine / Accuracy 3 / ROF 1/1.....PenDam 7/1

Markerlight: each Pathfinder can use this to guide an off table missile to target. Acc 3+ / RoF 1/0 / Pen Dam 13/1.

Shield drone controller : add a shield drone to the unit, use it to absorb casualties.

Standard squad (6 pathfinders) 400 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 to 2 specialist, 1 officer (Shas' ui).

Specialists : Medic, Combat Engineer, ECM specialist.

Optional Equipment : grenades at +5 AP per model (in the entire unit.)



Designer note;

Based on 3 UNA Star trooper support teams (amalgamated)

Bonus ; Pulse Carbine , ECM specialist.

Penalty ; -2 CCD, Tau missiles will not have the UNA "designator" ability.



To Walts; its no big deal. happy

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Crisis Battlesuits

move 18 cm
morale 8
armour 10
melee defence 2

Plasma Rifle / Accuracy 8 / ROF 1/1 ... PenDam 14/1

Burst Cannon / Accuracy 3 / ROF 3/0.....PenDam 7/1

Standard squad (3 Crisis Battlesuits) 380 AP ....0 special weapons, 0 to 2 specialist, 1 officer (Shas' vre), extra to upgrade to Shas 'el / Shas' o

Standard equipment : G pack.

Specialists : Medic, Shield Drone controller, ECM specialist.

Optional Equipment : none.



designer notes;

Based on Therian Assault Golem.

Bonus ; G pack , Officer (still to be calculated), gains specialists.

Penalty ; Loses fearless , burst cannon is -2 ACC and -1 PenDam , -3 CCD, loses Therian Routines.

Shield drone controller ; add shield drone to the unit, use it to absorb casualties.



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Only the Devilfish and Hammerhead to add and will be ready to start testing. cool

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Devilfish APC

Type 2 AFV

Cost 250 AP

Move 30 cm / Morale 6 / Armour 14 / CCD 5 / Transport 6

Frame 4 / Propulsion 2 / Weapons 2

Weapons x2 burst cannon ; ACC 3 / ROF 3/0 ...Pen.Dam 7/1

Equipment : Anti G generator.


designer notes

Based on the Therian Wyvern Golgoth

Bonus : +5 cm movement , -50 AP

Penalty : Burst cannon is ACC -3, PenDam -1 / loses nerves of steel / CCD -1 / transport -2

Message edited by zellak - Thursday, 08-Nov-2012, 10:56 AM

DEMON : " When next we meet, i shall tear you limb from limb...there will be no escape. "

Hero: " You bring balloon animals and i'll hire a clown..... we can make it a regular party. "
 
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